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Faculty petition for split from SIU system
Holly Meyer
Issue date: 10/16/07 Section: News
SIUE philosophy professor Robert Ware has circulated a petition among the faculty that calls for SIUE to separate from the Southern Illinois University system.
"I want to take action," Ware said. "I am outraged by the decision on Thursday. I feel it very badly damaged our university."
An internal review board concluded Thursday that SIU President Glenn Poshard only had cases of "inadvertent plagiarism" in his master's thesis and his doctoral dissertation. The internal review board recommended the board of trustees takes no further action against Poshard.
In August, the Southern Illinois University Carbondale student newspaper the Daily Egyptian accused Poshard of plagiarizing his dissertation. In September, the Chronicle of Higher Education found similar instances of plagiarism in Poshard's thesis.
Currently, the petition has 20 signatures plus one anonymous signature and will be presented by Ware to the Faculty Senate at its Thursday meeting.
The petition, written by but not signed by Krzysztof Jarosz, chair of the Mathematics and Statistics department, said, "We faculty members of Southern Illinois University Edwardsville (SIUE) request that SIUE be separated from the Carbondale campus, and that SIUE be permitted to go forward as a separate University."
Ware said the idea of separating from SIUC as a response to the Poshard scandal first came from English professor Joel Hardman and seconded by English professor Brian Ragen.
The issue of a separate university came up two years ago in the legislature according to David Gross, executive assistant for governmental relations for the president's office.
The legislation did not pass because Metro East elected officials and the university officials decided the two universities were stronger under the same system, Gross said.
"The sum of the universities is better than in individual parts," Gross said.
Gross said he could not comment directly on the petition because Ware currently has a pending grievance.
"I want to take action," Ware said. "I am outraged by the decision on Thursday. I feel it very badly damaged our university."
An internal review board concluded Thursday that SIU President Glenn Poshard only had cases of "inadvertent plagiarism" in his master's thesis and his doctoral dissertation. The internal review board recommended the board of trustees takes no further action against Poshard.
In August, the Southern Illinois University Carbondale student newspaper the Daily Egyptian accused Poshard of plagiarizing his dissertation. In September, the Chronicle of Higher Education found similar instances of plagiarism in Poshard's thesis.
Currently, the petition has 20 signatures plus one anonymous signature and will be presented by Ware to the Faculty Senate at its Thursday meeting.
The petition, written by but not signed by Krzysztof Jarosz, chair of the Mathematics and Statistics department, said, "We faculty members of Southern Illinois University Edwardsville (SIUE) request that SIUE be separated from the Carbondale campus, and that SIUE be permitted to go forward as a separate University."
Ware said the idea of separating from SIUC as a response to the Poshard scandal first came from English professor Joel Hardman and seconded by English professor Brian Ragen.
The issue of a separate university came up two years ago in the legislature according to David Gross, executive assistant for governmental relations for the president's office.
The legislation did not pass because Metro East elected officials and the university officials decided the two universities were stronger under the same system, Gross said.
"The sum of the universities is better than in individual parts," Gross said.
Gross said he could not comment directly on the petition because Ware currently has a pending grievance.
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Kevin Brown
posted 10/16/07 @ 3:45 PM CST
I agree that this split would show our discontent with the review board's decision to not take action. The way the situation was handled gives both school's a bad reputation in the academic community. (Continued…)
Annonomous
posted 10/16/07 @ 4:29 PM CST
from now on we will be known as EDWARDSVILLE UNIVERSITY!!
Lee D
posted 10/16/07 @ 11:22 PM CST
It would not be wise for Edwardsville to try and separate from SIU. Edwardsville is a small campus still building history. Without SIU, Edwardsville will not have the same pull in Illinois government as the large university does. (Continued…)
Erik
posted 10/17/07 @ 1:43 PM CST
Please split from SIU. Let the BOT move nursing and dental programs back to Carbondale and you can become a satellite campus for SWIC...since without the SIU moniker, that's what you are already. (Continued…)
Leslie
posted 10/17/07 @ 6:46 PM CST
I see we have some SIUC students posting here now.
Saluki4LIFE
posted 10/19/07 @ 3:16 PM CST
Honestly, if that petition was brought to Carbondale they would find plenty of signatures. We are SIU, not SIUC. We don't to be associated with you anyway. (Continued…)
Saluki4LIFE
posted 10/19/07 @ 3:25 PM CST
Here are some possible names for you to split so we can get our name back and drop the stupid "C" that you helped create.
Metro East College
Metro East University
College of Southwestern Illinois
etc. (Continued…)
GladToBeAtSIUE
posted 10/20/07 @ 1:20 PM CST
I have attended both campuses and I would have to say that there is a DRASTIC difference between the two. SIUC is in decline, their enrollment is down, their library building collapsed while I was there, their faculty are some of the worst I have encountered, and many of the students I knew were actively cheating on each and every classroom assignment. (Continued…)
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